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president obama and mitt romney spent the day preparing for their first debate tomorrow night. and republican leaders of the house oversight committee charged that the state department ignored pleas for greater security in benghazi, libya, before the u.s. ambassador was killed there. what can middle, high school and college students learn from watching the upcoming presidential debates? kwame holman introduces some special debate teaching tools. >> holman: working with educators around the country, newshour extra, our site for students and teachers, has put together resources to help young viewers learn about the history and evolution of debates, and feel more connected to the democratic process. find those links on the rundown. and headhunter nick corcodilos answers your job search questions, including how to approach a full career change. all that and more is on our web site, newshour.pbs.org. gwen? >> ifill: and that's the newshour for tonight. on wednesday, we'll be joined by mark shields and david brooks for our debate preview. i'm gwen ifill. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woo
president obama and mitt romney spent the day preparing for their first debate tomorrow night. and republican leaders of the house oversight committee charged that the state department ignored pleas for greater security in benghazi, libya, before the u.s. ambassador was killed there. what can middle, high school and college students learn from watching the upcoming presidential debates? kwame holman introduces some special debate teaching tools. >> holman: working with educators around...
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most people will go into these debates, if you like obama, you will think he did a debate job. romney has said that he wants to use the debates as a clarifying moment. he thinks the democrats have waged an inaccurate campaign. he has said he expects obama to tell more untruths on the debate stage but he thinks there is a real opportunity for him. there is congratulations from the romney campaign, what a great debater obama is and in some ways they are mediocre debaters. there have been some mistakes. obama is likeable enough moment with hillary clinton. gwen: think of the debates you have covered, chuck -- >> because i'm old. [laughter] gwen: which once would you say have made a difference in the outcome? >> well, i'm not actually this old -- [laughter] >> clearly when gerald ford said that the poland not under soviet domination that was one of his memorable type of gaffes and the big putdown from lloyd bentsten and dan quayle. they don't have a moment where they say that guy is clearly better than the other guy. they are both well prepared. these are smart people. and not like
most people will go into these debates, if you like obama, you will think he did a debate job. romney has said that he wants to use the debates as a clarifying moment. he thinks the democrats have waged an inaccurate campaign. he has said he expects obama to tell more untruths on the debate stage but he thinks there is a real opportunity for him. there is congratulations from the romney campaign, what a great debater obama is and in some ways they are mediocre debaters. there have been some...
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president obama and governor romney faced off tonight in the first of three debates before election day on november 6th. domestic policy was in focus during the 90-minute showdown at the university of denver. the platform gave govern romney an opportunity to reignite his campaign which has suffered some this summer. they sparred across a range of issues. >> there's a various done of small businesses across the country saying what's the effect of obamacare in your hiring plans. three quarters said it makes us less likely to hire people. i just don't know how the president could come into office, facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment and economic crises at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obamacare instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. >> the irony is that we've seen this model work really well, in massachusetts. because govern romney did a good thing, working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model, and as a consequence, people are covered there. it hasn't destroyed job
president obama and governor romney faced off tonight in the first of three debates before election day on november 6th. domestic policy was in focus during the 90-minute showdown at the university of denver. the platform gave govern romney an opportunity to reignite his campaign which has suffered some this summer. they sparred across a range of issues. >> there's a various done of small businesses across the country saying what's the effect of obamacare in your hiring plans. three...
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you've got romney obama debate. big bird. >> and jobs. so we see the focus on it was mostly about the economy, you see the focus on the substance of this debate as opposed to just the zingers and squabbling between the candidates and i was fascinated by the role of xbox. >> xbox is a controller you can use in your living room to play games on your television set and there's a subscription called xbox live. yocan play with people by using a game controller. well, what happened last night is that xbox decided to let the video of the debate stream and they posed questions to gameers saying "at this moment who would you vote for?" immediately you had obama 75% of the gamers say yes or mitt romney 10% of the gamers say yes. it's a big figure but you get the point. >> even though this is only about 10,000 participated in this microsoft game, these are mostly younger men, 18 to 29 not plugged into politics who are harder to reach and the fact that they were engaged in answering these questions about presidential debate i think is a watershed mom
you've got romney obama debate. big bird. >> and jobs. so we see the focus on it was mostly about the economy, you see the focus on the substance of this debate as opposed to just the zingers and squabbling between the candidates and i was fascinated by the role of xbox. >> xbox is a controller you can use in your living room to play games on your television set and there's a subscription called xbox live. yocan play with people by using a game controller. well, what happened last...
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obama's weak debate performance. here was president barack obama today. >> this morning we found out that the unemployment rate has fallen to its lowest level since i took office. (cheers) >> more americans entered the work force, more people are getting jobs. >> and here is governor romney's reaction to the same number. >> the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. and if you just drop out of the work force, if you just give up and say i can't go back to work, i'm going to stay home and drop out altogether, why, you're no longer part of the employment statistics, so looks like unemployment is getting better. but the truth is if the same share of people were participating in the work force today, as on the day the president got elected, our unemployment rate would be around 11%. >> the president clearly sees today's numbers good news for his campaign, but eric you've been digging into the numbers. can you help us dig a little deeper.
obama's weak debate performance. here was president barack obama today. >> this morning we found out that the unemployment rate has fallen to its lowest level since i took office. (cheers) >> more americans entered the work force, more people are getting jobs. >> and here is governor romney's reaction to the same number. >> the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. and if you just drop...
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that was helping president obama until the denver debate. now this race is tight and very much in flux. gwen: let's talk about the trend lines. the president can still claim 31 months of unsbrurmented job growth but mitt romney just made that point about how if different things were true this would be 11%. does he have a point? >> well, you can take statistics and play with them all you want. yes, if people weren't leaving, if people weren't dropping out of the job search process then there would be more people in it. ok. but what's important is the number. and the number is good for obama in the psychological way and also if you look historically. what we've just been through in the past year is one of the -- the changes are tiny, but one of the longest declines in the unemployment rate since 1984, so that's a very good trend for the president and public opinion polls have been sending these mixed signals. the most recent "wall street journal" poll had the wrong track number sky high, 60%. but of those who felt like the economy was improvin
that was helping president obama until the denver debate. now this race is tight and very much in flux. gwen: let's talk about the trend lines. the president can still claim 31 months of unsbrurmented job growth but mitt romney just made that point about how if different things were true this would be 11%. does he have a point? >> well, you can take statistics and play with them all you want. yes, if people weren't leaving, if people weren't dropping out of the job search process then...
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we're going to see barack obama make mistakes in the debate. he said to mitt romney -- the line he said to hillary clinton, you are likable enough. neither one is apt to make a huge gaffe. >> who is undecided? this is all about. >> tiny amounts of people. tiny amounts of precincts in states. in some ways, it might not be mitt romney's last chance that it is his last best chance to break through and show people that he cares about them, he cares about their problems but that has been an issue for him. he has advantages on some of the other issues. so much of these debates is about the body language, the social clues. do they look pleasant? did they look like someone you want to have in your living room for the next four years? that will be important. >> in terms of the immediate impact of this debate, will we know after the media has pored over all the tricks and turns? >> we will know what the consensus of the media is. there are these polls, they will have some polls as early as tomorrow. we over analyze everything. i suspect in the next 48 ho
we're going to see barack obama make mistakes in the debate. he said to mitt romney -- the line he said to hillary clinton, you are likable enough. neither one is apt to make a huge gaffe. >> who is undecided? this is all about. >> tiny amounts of people. tiny amounts of precincts in states. in some ways, it might not be mitt romney's last chance that it is his last best chance to break through and show people that he cares about them, he cares about their problems but that has been...
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many commentators said he dominated the debate while obama lacked energy. we have this report. >> in a country is fraught with a bitter political divisions, and there is a rare moment of agreement. >> from mitt romney outshines president obama in the first date. >> the consensus of the american media -- mitt was the hit. president didn't seem to want to let go. he started with a standard campaign like -- is but it would cut taxes for the wealthy and hurt the middle-class. >> that kind of top down economics where folks the topper doing well in the average person making a $3 million is getting a $250,000 tax break while middle-class families are burden further, that is not what i believe is a recipe for economic growth. >> mitt romney was having a that. >> under the president's policies, middle income families had been buried. middle-income families have seen their income come down by $4,300. this is a tax in at del. i will call it the economy tax. >> commit romney, so often stiff and wooden seemed a different man. look at the gleam in his eyes as he talked d
many commentators said he dominated the debate while obama lacked energy. we have this report. >> in a country is fraught with a bitter political divisions, and there is a rare moment of agreement. >> from mitt romney outshines president obama in the first date. >> the consensus of the american media -- mitt was the hit. president didn't seem to want to let go. he started with a standard campaign like -- is but it would cut taxes for the wealthy and hurt the middle-class....
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touching down in denver, president obama has prepared for for these debates than any sitting president than the modern era. >> that's cute. tom, the president looked more like the president of a justin bieber fan club over the greatest country ever. >> he is the best at going down those stairs. they should have the debate on the stairs. >> they should. talking while going down the stairs is dangerous. >> i never do it. >> i talk when i go up. i never talk when i go down. >> and i hold the railing. i don't care if it looks nerdy. i don't want to fall. >> i get panicky if there is no railing. how did we tbet on this topic? >> look, there is no news here. the news is there is no news. everyone is acting surprised. what happened to obama? he had a bad performance, he had a bad day? he is always like this. have you ever seen a press conference? boring. anything except one of his speeches is boring. he is not that impressive. he was never good with the facts. he does a lot of mumbly-bumbly. >> unless he does the southern thing. that is great. obama pointed out five times that me and romney a
touching down in denver, president obama has prepared for for these debates than any sitting president than the modern era. >> that's cute. tom, the president looked more like the president of a justin bieber fan club over the greatest country ever. >> he is the best at going down those stairs. they should have the debate on the stairs. >> they should. talking while going down the stairs is dangerous. >> i never do it. >> i talk when i go up. i never talk when i go...
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how will it stack up against the debate between obama and romney? gutfeld and mcguirk have some thoughts on both situations. the boys are next. seems they haven't been moving much lately. but things are starting to turn around because of business people like you. and regions is here to help. with the experience and service to keep things rolling. from business loans to cash management, we want to be your partner moving forward. so switch to regions. and let's get going. together. >> thanks for staying with us, i'm bill o'reilly. in the what the heck just happened segment tonight? the whole country waiting to hear what greg gutfeld and bernard mcguirk thought of the presidential debate this week. we wanted to do something a little bit different. we asked the guys to select the strongest points that candidates made. gutfeld was assigned governor romney and mcguirk president obama. >> i should have watched the debate. rerun of dawson's creek so i missed the next thing. obama let mitt win so people could stop talking about that 2007 speech it was genius
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both of talented debaters. obama has some advantages. he's debated in the general election stage before. romney has the advantage of having simply debated more over the last year. so i think it's kind of an even stage there, but the situation is not comparable to reagan versus carter. the economic metrics when carter was running for re- election were extremely negative, much more negative than they are today, and just this last week, polls show that the pub has more confidence in the president's economic views and vision and program than romney. so he has lost the one advantage that he once had. secondly, there were a lot of independent, undecided voters in 1980 who had lost faith in carter and were just waiting to see if they could feel confidence in his challenger. there are so few independent voters. this is an election that's about mobilizing the bases. so going after the independent voter is not a big surprise. having said all that in the memo put out by david axelrod -- >> who is who? >> he's the campaign guru on the obama side. >>
both of talented debaters. obama has some advantages. he's debated in the general election stage before. romney has the advantage of having simply debated more over the last year. so i think it's kind of an even stage there, but the situation is not comparable to reagan versus carter. the economic metrics when carter was running for re- election were extremely negative, much more negative than they are today, and just this last week, polls show that the pub has more confidence in the...
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so, if barack obama wants to know what to do, all he has to do is watch the '94 debates. mitt, remember that debate, you had a chance to ask senator kennedy any question. and this is the question that he chose. >> women are concerned about the glass ceiling. women that i have seen in organizations have not been able to have the opportunity they deserve to have in getting ahead in organizations. what are your views about breaking through the glass ceiling? >> andrea: the glass ceiling, you have the line of the senate and that is the question you asked? i hope he is tougher tomorrow evening. >> dana: there were other questions you could have asked. >> andrea: ted kennedy? they can't say he was against women i guess. >> greg: by the way, i've never seen a glass ceiling before. >> dana: i'll show you one. just kidding. >> greg: >> so joe biden, fantastic joe biden pulled another one. this was today or yesterday. listen to joe biden talking about president obama, the last four years. listen. >> i mean we can stop all the malarkey. this is deadly earnest, man. this is the edly
so, if barack obama wants to know what to do, all he has to do is watch the '94 debates. mitt, remember that debate, you had a chance to ask senator kennedy any question. and this is the question that he chose. >> women are concerned about the glass ceiling. women that i have seen in organizations have not been able to have the opportunity they deserve to have in getting ahead in organizations. what are your views about breaking through the glass ceiling? >> andrea: the glass...
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how will it stack up against the debate between obama and romney? gutfeld and mcguirk have some thoughts on both situations. the boys are next. >> thanks for staying with us, i'm bill o'reilly. in the what the heck just happened segment tonight? the whole country waiting to hear what greg gutfeld and bernard mcguirk thought of the presidential debate this week. we wanted to do something a little bit different. we asked the guys to select the strongest points that candidates made. gutfeld was assigned governor romney and mcguirk president obama. >> i should have watched the debate. rerun of dawson's creek so i missed the next thing. obama let mitt win so people could stop talking about that 2007 speech it was genius. joke. how could this be a surprise? you have a successful businessman who wipes the floor with a grad student. you have guy who knows jobs and a guy who knows jay-z. a guy who had a career. a guy who had a canine. there is no comparison and the most important thing is, this is what nobody is talking about. mitt had to win big. he couldn'
how will it stack up against the debate between obama and romney? gutfeld and mcguirk have some thoughts on both situations. the boys are next. >> thanks for staying with us, i'm bill o'reilly. in the what the heck just happened segment tonight? the whole country waiting to hear what greg gutfeld and bernard mcguirk thought of the presidential debate this week. we wanted to do something a little bit different. we asked the guys to select the strongest points that candidates made. gutfeld...
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>> greg: allen west versus barack obama would be a dream debate. >> eric: it would be incredible. who would you prefer? i don't know why they had allen west, who do you prefer to comment? >> bob: somebody who knew something about what they were talking about. >> eric: what are you talking about? >> bob: reverend wright. >> kimberly: we're talking about the video. >> eric: video showing a different -- president obama in that crowd, wherever he was, in virginia, he talks a certain way to his audience. not necessarily tying anything to reality. just talks to the audience. pointing out that dialect changes sometimes, accusations change. >> bob: the dialect? is this new? talk to your constituency? >> kimberly: c'mon. you make so many excuses and you're so afraid to say the obvious. c'mon. how all of a sudden did he sound like a southern minister? >> bob: it's not just liberals. 20% liberals, he has 50% of the vote. come from somewhere. >> greg: allen west joined the military to make a life for himself. obama joined politics to make a name for himself. that's what makes them interesting
>> greg: allen west versus barack obama would be a dream debate. >> eric: it would be incredible. who would you prefer? i don't know why they had allen west, who do you prefer to comment? >> bob: somebody who knew something about what they were talking about. >> eric: what are you talking about? >> bob: reverend wright. >> kimberly: we're talking about the video. >> eric: video showing a different -- president obama in that crowd, wherever he was, in...
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and obama has not debated since four years ago. dana, what do you think? >> dana: except for "the view." >> bob: what do you think of the expectations? dais when president obama says that, it's not credible. they don't believe that. they think so highly of themselves and their campaign, when he says that, you know he is setting it up so the headline the next day will be despite expectation of him not doing well, president obama shined. that's what you will read. >> greg: surprisingly good point. gamesmanship. obama doesn't believe there is anything on earth anyone can do better than him. false modesty that is comically nauseating after a while. no, there is nothing that he thinks romney can do better than him. >> eric: a good reason for that. everyone after the last four years ago said what a great speaker he is! he is one of the best political speakers over the walk the earth. remember that? then no, i'm not that good. >> bob: do you think you have chance of setting expectation lower for himself? >> andrea: does he? >> bob: yeah. >> andrea: he wants them
and obama has not debated since four years ago. dana, what do you think? >> dana: except for "the view." >> bob: what do you think of the expectations? dais when president obama says that, it's not credible. they don't believe that. they think so highly of themselves and their campaign, when he says that, you know he is setting it up so the headline the next day will be despite expectation of him not doing well, president obama shined. that's what you will read. >>...
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if you remember back in the hillary debates with hillary and obama, when he gets asked tough questions he does not like it. you can see the arrogance come out, and it is not a likable trait. i am hoping mitt is as strong as i think he will be and draws a parallel between what obama says he was going do and what he has done which is two totally different worlds. >> this is mudslinging at its worst. >> or at its best. want to do both sides. >> bill, go ahead and pretend you will watch the debate. >> i might watch some highlights on the old youtube. i think the kids watch that. my favorite quote from the nfl owner was johnson who said he would rather see a romney victory than another jets win. way to embrace your crowd there. every jets fan loved that one. and they sadly knew it was probably accurate. >> but he just means he believes the country is more important than his own early personal interest. of course his team hates him now. >> the jets fans would disagree. are there any jets fans? >> he is accepting the inevitable. that's what he is doing. >>> coming up, what lessons can be lear
if you remember back in the hillary debates with hillary and obama, when he gets asked tough questions he does not like it. you can see the arrogance come out, and it is not a likable trait. i am hoping mitt is as strong as i think he will be and draws a parallel between what obama says he was going do and what he has done which is two totally different worlds. >> this is mudslinging at its worst. >> or at its best. want to do both sides. >> bill, go ahead and pretend you will...
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how will it stack up against the debate between obama and romney? gutfeld and mcguirk have some thoughts on both situations. the boys are next. what's truly amazing about mercedes new mbrace2 system... is i can follow all my sports... catch the latest breaking news... keep in touch with friends... follow the financial headlines... find a great restaurant... and with siriusxm i can get weather forecasts... all from here. in my mercedes-benz. [ male announcer ] introducing mbrace2. the most comprehensive cloud-bas telematics system on the road. it's your world, from your car. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't knowt yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td am
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tomorrow night, wednesday, the first of these four debates, three between mr. romney and mr. obama. tomorrow is the first that we will see them on the same stage. in advance of that debate tomorrow night, yesterday in "the wall street journal" mr. romney had a piece. the piece was titled "a new course for the middle east," but he raises some domestic issues, . "in recent years, president obama has allowed our leadership to atrophy. our economy is stuck in a recovery that is clearly deserves the name. our national debt has risen to record levels. our military tested by a decade of war is facing cuts based to that -- thanks to the budgetary games played by the white house. our values have been misunderstood by a president who thinks that weakness will win favor with our adversaries. by failing to maintain the elements of our influence and by stepping away from our allies, president obama has heightened the prospect of conflict and instability. he does not understand that an american policy that lets result can provoke a precedent and encouraged this order." two paris. let me take them
tomorrow night, wednesday, the first of these four debates, three between mr. romney and mr. obama. tomorrow is the first that we will see them on the same stage. in advance of that debate tomorrow night, yesterday in "the wall street journal" mr. romney had a piece. the piece was titled "a new course for the middle east," but he raises some domestic issues, . "in recent years, president obama has allowed our leadership to atrophy. our economy is stuck in a recovery...
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tavis: since you mentioned the present, the first debate between mr. obama and mr. romney is behind us. the president is on his own. just weeks ago at the democratic convention he had a nice assist from former president bill clinton. bill clinton has weighed in on this issue. again, it is one thing for you and me to talk about. when bill clinton says something, people start to pay attention. he has weighed in on this and said something i want you to unpack. he has argued that the republicans what the electorate in 2012 to look like the 2010 electorate and not like the 2008 electorate. explain what he meant by thtat. >> if you look at the 2008 electorate, it was a the per se electric, a denver electorate. and it signaled a democrat change in the country and what the electorate will look like going forward in 2016 and beyond. that is why i called the coalition of the ascendant. if you look at 2010, it was an electorate that was older and more conservative. that is why republicans did so well in 2010 and not so well in 2008. clinton said this is not rocket science, tha
tavis: since you mentioned the present, the first debate between mr. obama and mr. romney is behind us. the president is on his own. just weeks ago at the democratic convention he had a nice assist from former president bill clinton. bill clinton has weighed in on this issue. again, it is one thing for you and me to talk about. when bill clinton says something, people start to pay attention. he has weighed in on this and said something i want you to unpack. he has argued that the republicans...
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debates are the playoffs. >> kimberly: anybody else? that's it. coming up, pilot pops the question to his girlfriend after tricking her to thinking she was about to die. sound romantic to you? i don't think so. the plane crash that was plain wrong next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> bob: i'm here so the substance block is about to begin. love was in the air over the skies of chicago when a couple got engaged mid-flight. ryan thompson decided to propose to his girlfriend carly kennedy in a very unusual way. how did he do it? he said the plane's controls were malfunctioning and had her read instructions from the emergency procedures manual that included a request for her to be his bride. how sweet? how dumb? what do you think? >> kimberly: i would actually reject this proposal, obviously there will be others coming. >> greg: one of the few you have rejected. >> kimberly: what can i say? >> bob: how many times have you said no? we know you said yes a couple times. >> kimberly: i said no more than five times. >> bob: how about you? >> andrea: what about me? >> b
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could president obama use these better than expected job numbers to recover from a lackluster debate? >> yes, and i think he is depending on it. it is not so much the exact 10th of a percentage point that makes a difference to people. it is how they feel about the figures. are they less worried now about losing their jobs, losing their health care perhaps, unable to pay off their college loans? do they feel more confident or less confident? do they feel the country is heading in the right direction or the wrong direction? naturally, do they feel that president obama is doing a good job or a bad job? these figures set things on a good path. it is hard to see this as bad news. >> mitt romney has based his whole campaign on the economy being weak. how does he respond? >> weekly. . we -- weakly. in every speech so far, he has said unemployment has been above 8%. that was his best line, and it was true, but now he cannot say that. what i imagine he will say is that these are not the true figures. the unemployment figure does not include those people who have given up looking for jobs, and
could president obama use these better than expected job numbers to recover from a lackluster debate? >> yes, and i think he is depending on it. it is not so much the exact 10th of a percentage point that makes a difference to people. it is how they feel about the figures. are they less worried now about losing their jobs, losing their health care perhaps, unable to pay off their college loans? do they feel more confident or less confident? do they feel the country is heading in the right...
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the country thought obama was a better debater. i suspect, given those expectations, romney will have over-performed. >> woodruff: do you think it was a deliberate strategy on the part of the president to not be more aggressive or he was trying to hue to the format, the economy and health care and the role of government? what do you-- >> my impression, he has sessions with columnists where he defends his policies. that's what he sounds like. and so i don't think it was anything different than he has been talkin talk within the reaf the white house for the past four years. >> it was too policy abstract, the president's presentation was. and, you know, the few times he did put a human face on it, as i mentioned, it was better. what i found interesting was who became the innocence by association figures? tip o'neill and ronald reagan were invoked by both sides. ( laughter ). and donald trump became the punching bag of small business. i just eye found that interesting. and of course bill clt was embraced not simply by the president but
the country thought obama was a better debater. i suspect, given those expectations, romney will have over-performed. >> woodruff: do you think it was a deliberate strategy on the part of the president to not be more aggressive or he was trying to hue to the format, the economy and health care and the role of government? what do you-- >> my impression, he has sessions with columnists where he defends his policies. that's what he sounds like. and so i don't think it was anything...
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and president obama needed good news. and remember the stimulus promise to keep unemployment below 8%, stimulus worked. okay. but i mean politically and psychologically the difference between 8.1 and 7.8 is significant. but i agree with david. i think to a greet degree, judy, the economy is already baked into people's political equation. a number, an insignificant number probably isn't going to change the political equation. >> what does it do though, david, to the romney sort of central argument at one point, of his campaign which was the president has failed on the economy. >> yeah, i don't really think it changed that. i mean we're gaining 114,000 jobs a year,-- i mean a month. you know, this time in many recoveries we're gaining 200,000300,000, times even 400,000. so if we are at a healthy recovery, then you know, then it would hurt his argument but we're not a haley economy. and it's still basically true, though only by a slimmer margin that 2012 has been worse than 2011. so he with still make that argument. and he'l
and president obama needed good news. and remember the stimulus promise to keep unemployment below 8%, stimulus worked. okay. but i mean politically and psychologically the difference between 8.1 and 7.8 is significant. but i agree with david. i think to a greet degree, judy, the economy is already baked into people's political equation. a number, an insignificant number probably isn't going to change the political equation. >> what does it do though, david, to the romney sort of central...
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can't follow the strategy in the second debate. what they also want to avoid a situation that happened with al fore where, al gore where you are seeing a different human being on the stage in the second debate than you are in the first debate. >> rose: go ahead. >> i think there is a certain starkness in the debate that you don't have in the convention. the contrast is extraordinary, in a convention, you are idolized 20,000 people in the room all love you, the energy of the crowd carries you on its shoulders, almost what you say doesn't matter long as long as you don't screw up, on a debate, there is a stark contrast because there is a very bare stage, if you look at there is nobody in front of you booing or cheering and you have a moderator and two people and almost like a gladiator and when you have two gladiators going after each other the crowd expenses when one is afraid. it is called flop sweat, it is not visible but the actor on the understands when the performance is not going well and it just throws off your whole game. >>
can't follow the strategy in the second debate. what they also want to avoid a situation that happened with al fore where, al gore where you are seeing a different human being on the stage in the second debate than you are in the first debate. >> rose: go ahead. >> i think there is a certain starkness in the debate that you don't have in the convention. the contrast is extraordinary, in a convention, you are idolized 20,000 people in the room all love you, the energy of the crowd...